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Mounting hatred for US in Pakistan
Afghanistan News.Net Sunday 7th September, 2008
The Pakistan Ambassador to the United States, Hussain Haqqani, has told reporters that unilateral actions by US forces in Pakistani territory will not help to the war against terror, but will spark fury among the people.
He underscored the need to help the Pakistani people understand the US actions, which were currently breeding hatred in his country.
On Wednesday, US-led coalition forces in Afghanistan carried out a pre-dawn helicopter-borne raid that killed at least 20 people in a village in South Waziristan.
The government has warned that such actions could endanger Pakistan's cooperation with the coalition forces and added that Pakistan has set up to 1000 check posts along its border with Afghanistan to check movement of militants.
Pakistan’s military has claimed that there was no known terrorist in the area when the US-led coalition forces attacked the tribal area and killed innocent people including women and children.
Reacting to the attack, General Tariq Majid, the Chairman of Pakistan Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee said Pakistan reserved the right to retaliate against unilateral attacks by coalition forces from Afghanistan.
He said the cross-border strikes would only alienate locals.
During the week, Pakistan's Senate adopted a unanimous resolution strongly condemning the latest cross-border attack.
The resolution mentioned that the raid undermined the basic norms of international law.
The Senate resolution further said that any incursion inside the Pakistani territory and resulting loss of innocent lives was unacceptable and the matter would be taken up strongly with member countries of the International Security Assistance Force; the coalition group in Afghanistan.
The Senate called upon the government of Pakistan to take all necessary measures to protect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the country and repel such attacks in the future with full force.
Meanwhile, US military officials have reportedly said that strikes in Pakistan's cross-border tribal areas will increase in the coming months, in an effort to counter increasing violence in Afghanistan.
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Eric Blair 09-07-08, 09:25 AM |
Hatred for US building in Pakistan
Arming Pakistan with nukes was a great idea! Now let’s piss them off! What’s the worst thing that could happen?
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Anonymous 09-07-08, 09:13 PM |
too many civillan deaths already
does anybody know the total number of civillan deaths the coalition have caused? bombing small children in pakistan will only serve to make the extremeist community angrier.
It seems to me that diplomacy is a much better course of action than war. Bombs cannot win this war.
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isis2008 09-07-08, 09:44 PM |
No Choice
The Iraq war was barbarous and unjustified and plain immoral.
However the Taliban war was always the right war and we either wait for body bags of western soldiers to increase and for Afganistan which wants the US to pursue the Taliban across the border to become what it was agaim.
The truth if the wek Governments whoever they maybe over the next few years in pakistan have no solution for their uncontrollable north west regions. Pakistan also has a serious problem within their military and thats also a reason why there never will be a solution.
i was outraged by Iraq but applaud the US in getting at least this right.
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isis2008 09-07-08, 09:46 PM |
About time
The Iraq war was barbarous and unjustified and plain immoral.
However the Taliban war was always the right war and we either wait for body bags of western soldiers to increase and for Afganistan which wants the US to pursue the Taliban across the border to become what it was agaim.
The truth if the wek Governments whoever they maybe over the next few years in pakistan have no solution for their uncontrollable north west regions. Pakistan also has a serious problem within their military and thats also a reason why there never will be a solution.
i was outraged by Iraq but applaud the US in getting at least this right.
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ChineseJew 09-07-08, 01:53 PM |
War must be expanded in order to increase GNP back home. It is do or die for the US.
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Nazim 09-07-08, 09:45 AM |
This is very stupid
100% of the supplies need by ISAF to fight in Afghanistan cross through Pakistan. If Pakistan stops cooperating as it did by cutting fuel supplies, how will ISAF continue it fight. Throw rocks a Taliban? What are the other options? Beg Iran, China, or Russia to let military supplies cross their territory.
Lets not forget Pakistan is a nuclear power with a weak and new democratic country. Lets help Taliban take over power in Pakistan by bombing Pakistan so that they can launch nuclear missiles on us.
This is so f**king stupid.
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Anonymous 09-07-08, 07:21 PM |
Pakistan needs to look after itself
The only hope for Pakistan is that they discover the loving God that Isha has shown us.. Learn to trust in God
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joe marty 09-17-08, 11:20 PM |
it is easy to say attack on pakistan, but no one is aware of the consequence of that war.you are saying that Muslims hate every one, read the history they are just struggling for their existence. when impose crusade war on them and capture their lands, and after their freedom struggle we create a country Israel in their land, we created the problem for yourself and them, wee ignore the genocide by the hand of israel of muslims, when they stand for that we call it terrarium. we call them fundamentalist, the fact is that we are the extremist, we still think on the last war in which israel will be on our side that why we are protecting them. we still think we are at war (crusade) with muslims. we are the follower of the massenger who accepted to be hanged but didnot pray to god to destroy those people as it was done by the previous massengers. who said if some one slap you on one check, offer him the other check so he feel his wrongdoing. but here what we are doing, we are killing hundred thousand of people, for the act of a few hundred people. in history the people of our religion killed more people. if we count the whole muslims leaders not killed that many people which killed by a single leader of Christians. that why they are called anti crist
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nepal 09-07-08, 11:37 AM |
Coomunist-Characterstics!!!
Police to curtail capital’s night life
Kantipur Report
KATHMANDU, Sept 7 - Bad news for weekend revelers. Late night disco-hoppers and dance bar goers in the capital better forget about night time unwinding as the authorities have issued a notice calling on disco and bar owners to close after 11pm.
Superitendent of Police Sarbendra Khanal, Chief of Metropolitan Police Range, said the move has come into effect in the Valley to prevent hooliganism and maintain law and order.
On Friday, a huge number of youths planning on staying out late were in for a surprise when restaurants and discos at the major night life hubs like Thamel and Lazimpat, which used to stay open till the wee hours, were ordered to close shop at 11pm.
With Deputy Prime Minister and Home Minister Bam Dev Gautam speaking about improving law and order in the country within a few days, a large number of police has been deployed during night time.
“In an attempt to thwart hooliganism and maintain law and order in public places, police have come up with strict rules for late night discos and dance restaurants," confirmed SP Khanal, adding that hundreds of police personnel have been deployed in various sections of valley in this connection.
According to him, police issued a notice to close before 11 pm some dance resturants and other establishments which create a noise in public, and strictly warned those who make a nuisance after drinking.
In this connection, police on Friday and Saturday arrested dozens on the charge of hooliganism under the public offence act. SP Khanal said the police had not imposed any new regulations, but old regulations were being strictly enforced.
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;) Midnight 09-07-08, 08:24 PM |
How very wrong. Pakistan can’t stand much more and they are very able to handle what comes their way in fact they were the ones doing the majority of the work to begin with. It sounds like a bunch of selfish crap. What most fear is that we aren’t capable. That is the issue isn’t it. The US took on a guerrilla war they knew very well the consequences. No one ever dreamed that war could last to o long?
That it can lead to serious financial problems? Whatever. I’ve heard a lot about numbers of dead bodies lately, numbers that almost have to be fictitious.
How can they be anything but. The democrats started out by keeping a body count and then went astray in the name calling. I’ve seen numbers that say the Taliban have lost over 3000 men. That number sounds wrong to me. Why? Too many civilian casualties.
Of course they’re going to enforce the law if they didn’t what would the world say?
I see the argument but I’m not sure that Pakistan has a Taliban problem.
Yes war earns the US money doesn’t it? In fact they could make a living off of it, huh? I find it odd that even the youngest members to the voting ranks can tell you that fact. I, in fact support what and whom I support because of that very fact. I don’t wear lipstick though. I’ll probably get by without it, however. I remember how it all started.
I once knew someone who thought if he just tagged along long enough he could make a living off of this house, he is still at it. Trash, whatever, he’ll take it. Let the members of the coalition do their own work.He owns nothing. Has nothing real to sell and earns nothing real.
I was thinking, yes I can do that too, but would I? He even tried to steal my I.Q. once how bad is that. I have one of the lowest IQs in the house, and still get into the country club. Elite is an ism.
So I was thinking about the way it was before Pakistan was broke and Afghanistan was at war again. For some reason Thin Lizzy came to mind and was doing that recite thing you know, like circles, and it struck me. That’s just exactly what they all need back. Their dignity and their possessions. Their security will lead to financial strengths and etc....
Therefore when I heard John M. scream send in the mavericks I screamed stampede!
Why? He swings well.
I’m not budging.
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Gorenpisang 09-07-08, 08:43 PM |
What a surprise!
Are you running out of news story? Muslims hate everybody, when they are at peace is when no one disagrees, everybody in the cult must breathe one air, think one thought and exercise one complete hatred. The difference between Chimpanzees and Muslims is that Chimpanzees revere life i.e. they do not blow themselves up just to enjoy the subsequence of innocent women and babies dying from their cowardly act.
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Anonymous 09-08-08, 01:31 AM |
hatred for US in Pakistan
Some folks such as Gorenpisang live in a lala land by listening to CNN and read CIA infested news paper such as Washington Post & NYT. You guys don’t understand that how much sh*t pakistan has taken over in last 20 years. From India, from Russia, from Afgans (5 million refugees) and now from ISAF, NATO, and US of A. Now, all hell has fallen on them from unknow suicide bombers. Even during Ramadan (fasting month). If this was another country it would have collapsed long time ago. Your news media kept saying that they hate US. That is not correct. They don’t hate American people. They have problem with govt. They called Pakistan an ally but at the same time they are stabbing them in their back. Now, everyone knows in Pakistan that foreign forces goal is to destabilise Pak govt by any means even if requires suicide bombing. Everyone knows that majority of the Afgan warlords are under the payroll of foreign forces to casue instability in Pakistan. Poll done few months ago, they think that Bhutto was killed by foreign intelligence agencie(S) to creat chaos in Pak. Ultimate goal is to disintegrate Pakistan and takeover its nuclear assest.
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Anonymous 09-08-08, 10:27 AM |
Pakistan is two faced
Unregistered;101992: Some folks such as Gorenpisang live in a lala land by listening to CNN and read CIA infested news paper such as Washington Post & NYT. You guys don’t understand that how much sh*t pakistan has taken over in last 20 years. From India, from Russia, from Afgans (5 million refugees) and now from ISAF, NATO, and US of A. Now, all hell has fallen on them from unknow suicide bombers. Even during Ramadan (fasting month). If this was another country it would have collapsed long time ago. Your news media kept saying that they hate US. That is not correct. They don’t hate American people. They have problem with govt. They called Pakistan an ally but at the same time they are stabbing them in their back. Now, everyone knows in Pakistan that foreign forces goal is to destabilise Pak govt by any means even if requires suicide bombing. Everyone knows that majority of the Afgan warlords are under the payroll of foreign forces to casue instability in Pakistan. Poll done few months ago, they think that Bhutto was killed by foreign intelligence agencie(S) to creat chaos in Pak. Ultimate goal is to disintegrate Pakistan and takeover its nuclear assest.
One face smiles says it will help and accepts the money.
The other sides uses the money to fund and train various Islamic groups to fight Nato, UN and coalition troops then terrorize small villages into submission.
Bhutto was murdered by Muslim Bortherhood operatives controlled by Paki ISI.
The Paki ISI has been fomenting violence for twenty years Daniel Pearl was killed for getting to close.
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Anonymous 09-08-08, 07:08 AM |
To cheat American tax-payers with billion of dollars is exellent for
Pakistani ISI but to stop the training camps of Talibans in FATA
is a difficult task for them. Wlhy? because ISI get, again, billions of
dollars from Saudi Arabia, China, Russia and Iran etc in return
to send their Talibans to Afghanistan and bleed Afghans and NATO forces.
Why Pakistanis encourage border infiltration of Talibans to Afghanistan?
Why not they destroy the training camps of Talibans and other Jehadi groups
in FATA?
If you go over to border and kill Afghans/ISAF forces, they have legitimate
right to cross Durrand Line and destroy the murderers, Talibans and
Pakistani forces who act as Talibans, so simple is it !!!!!
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Anonymous 09-18-08, 10:46 AM |
Pffft you have a flair for revisionist history!
joe marty;104071: it is easy to say attack on pakistan, but no one is aware of the consequence of that war.you are saying that Muslims hate every one, read the history they are just struggling for their existence. when impose crusade war on them and capture their lands, and after their freedom struggle we create a country Israel in their land, we created the problem for yourself and them, wee ignore the genocide by the hand of israel of muslims, when they stand for that we call it terrarium. we call them fundamentalist, the fact is that we are the extremist, we still think on the last war in which israel will be on our side that why we are protecting them. we still think we are at war (crusade) with muslims. we are the follower of the massenger who accepted to be hanged but didnot pray to god to destroy those people as it was done by the previous massengers. who said if some one slap you on one check, offer him the other check so he feel his wrongdoing. but here what we are doing, we are killing hundred thousand of people, for the act of a few hundred people. in history the people of our religion killed more people. if we count the whole muslims leaders not killed that many people which killed by a single leader of Christians. that why they are called anti crist
Muslims had no lands!
They stole all that they hold from other people!
The other people stole from those before them.
Now Muslims are getting Karma back and they don’t like it!
At one time the entire Middle east was Christian!
The Muslim hordes took over murdering, raping and pillaging all the way to France directly causing the crucades!
They still make war upon Christians, Zoastrians, Buhddist, Hindus, and other Muslims even to this day!
Good thing the majority of them are backwards uneducated and lazy producing little to nothing of value who live in corrupt countries who’s governments keep most of the wealth for themselves leaving the populace in abject poverty.
No wonder their so pissed at everything maybe if they would hold their governments accountable and not project their hissy fits outwards they might get somewhere.
Just a thought.
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Anonymous 09-18-08, 10:50 AM |
Eighty million Hindus would argue with you ..if they could!
joe marty;104071: it is easy to say attack on pakistan, but no one is aware of the consequence of that war.you are saying that Muslims hate every one, read the history they are just struggling for their existence. when impose crusade war on them and capture their lands, and after their freedom struggle we create a country Israel in their land, we created the problem for yourself and them, wee ignore the genocide by the hand of israel of muslims, when they stand for that we call it terrarium. we call them fundamentalist, the fact is that we are the extremist, we still think on the last war in which israel will be on our side that why we are protecting them. we still think we are at war (crusade) with muslims. we are the follower of the massenger who accepted to be hanged but didnot pray to god to destroy those people as it was done by the previous massengers. who said if some one slap you on one check, offer him the other check so he feel his wrongdoing. but here what we are doing, we are killing hundred thousand of people, for the act of a few hundred people. in history the people of our religion killed more people. if we count the whole muslims leaders not killed that many people which killed by a single leader of Christians. that why they are called anti crist
Will Durant, the famous historian summed it up like this:
“The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex of order and freedom, culture and peace, can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within."
Koenraad Elst , the german historian writes in “Negation in India”
The Muslim conquests, down to the 16th century, were for the Hindus a pure struggle of life and death. Entire cities were burnt down and the populations massacred, with hundreds of thousands killed in every campaign, and similar numbers deported as slaves. Every new invader made (often literally) his hills of Hindus skulls. Thus, the conquest of Afghanistan in the year 1000 was followed by the annihilation of the Hindu population; the region is still called the Hindu Kush, i.e. Hindu slaughter. The Bahmani sultans (1347-1480) in central India made it a rule to kill 100,000 captives in a single day, and many more on other occasions. The conquest of the Vijayanagar empire in 1564 left the capital plus large areas of Karnataka depopulated. And so on.
As a contribution to research on the quantity of the Islamic crimes against humanity, we may mention that the Indian (subcontinent) population decreased by 80 million between 1000 (conquest of Afghanistan) and 1525 (end of Delhi Sultanate)..
But the Indian Pagans were far too numerous and never fully surrendered. What some call the Muslim period in Indian history, was in reality a continuous war of occupiers against resisters, in which the Muslim rulers were finally defeated in the 18th century. Against these rebellious Pagans the Muslim rulers preferred to avoid total confrontation, and to accept the compromise which the (in India dominant) Hanifite school of Islamic law made possible. Alone among the four Islamic law schools, the school of Hanifa gave Muslim rulers the right not to offer the Pagans the sole choice between death and conversion, but to allow them toleration as zimmis (protected ones) living under 20 humiliating conditions, and to collect the jizya (toleration tax) from them. Normally the zimmi status was only open to Jews and Christians (and even that concession was condemned by jurists of the Hanbalite school like lbn Taymiya), which explains why these communities have survived in Muslim countries while most other religions have not. On these conditions some of the higher Hindu castes could be found willing to collaborate, so that a more or less stable polity could be set up. Even then, the collaboration of the Rajputs with the Moghul rulers, or of the Kayasthas with the Nawab dynasty, one became a smooth arrangement when enlightened rulers like Akbar (whom orthodox Muslims consider an apostate) cancelled these humiliating conditions and the jizya tax.
It is because of Hanifite law that many Muslim rulers in India considered themselves exempted from the duty to continue the genocide on the Hindus (self-exemption for which they were persistently reprimanded by their mullahs). Moreover, the Turkish and Afghan invaders also fought each other, so they often had to ally themselves with accursed unbelievers against fellow Muslims. After the conquests, Islamic occupation gradually lost its character of a total campaign to destroy the Pagans. Many Muslim rulers preferred to enjoy the revenue from stable and prosperous kingdoms, and were content to extract the jizya tax, and to limit their conversion effort to material incentives and support to the missionary campaigns of sufis and mullahs (in fact, for less zealous rulers, the jizya was an incentive to discourage conversions, as these would mean a loss of revenue).
What was that you said about Anti-Christ?
Just might be a Muslim after all.
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